Which Lore Background?

[Grognak]

Originally Posted by Snog

Ryan and other GMs weren't on the OSI shards :( GMs there didn't give a flying **** except sporadically(EG - Shadowclan). There is little reason to keep up the Bloodgod thing -- Bloodgod is kinda useless if you have a fundamentally similar big evil diety given by the already-existing lore.

Actually, Ryan did play OSI.

Also, the Seers (not the GMs) were quite active and did give a flying **** about the RPers until the great Seer purge of 1999.

Early into the OSI/EA takeover, over in Everquest the councilors did a stupid ass thing; they SUED Sony on the grounds that they were being exploited- they were working as councilors as something like 10 hours a week in return for free game service- under the grounds that they were working for less than minimum wage.

Sony responded by wiping out their councilor program, and EA followed suit by wiping out both Seers and Councilors.

Before 1999 if you even showed any HINT of roleplaying Seers would pimp your house out with shit. On Chesapeake especially, Seers placed stuff everywhere (and most of it is still there to this day).


Now, it remains to be seen if Darkfall will have an active Seer staff supprting rolepalyers. Hell, it remains to be seen if they'll even have the means to place stuff in game.

[Burz'Ro]

Originally Posted by Snog

There is little reason to keep up the Bloodgod thing -- Bloodgod is kinda useless if you have a fundamentally similar big evil diety given by the already-existing lore.

As Gnoth said earlier, not all Bloodclan orcs worship the Bloodgod, so maybe we could just make a totally brand new backstory that fits with Darkfall, and then follow it. I'll try to come up with something and share it later. I'd like to know if you all are opposed to a new and different lore though.

[Gnarlug]

From as far back as I can remember, Bloodclan began as Bloodgod worshippers. Now, there are some who question those beliefs and have their own beliefs, but our foundation still strongly relies on the Bloodgod, I could never see us changing that.

I'm 100 % against joining any other form of Lore. We are Bloodclan, we have almost 6 years of background of our own. In my mind, that's good enough to use. We have developed over the years a very diverse lore of our own. We at heart, worship the Bloodgod, we have tribes within us that interpret that differently. That's how it should be.

-Gnarlug

[Rugorim]

Originally Posted by Gnarlug

From as far back as I can remember, Bloodclan began as Bloodgod worshippers. Now, there are some who question those beliefs and have their own beliefs, but our foundation still strongly relies on the Bloodgod, I could never see us changing that.

I'm 100 % against joining any other form of Lore. We are Bloodclan, we have almost 6 years of background of our own. In my mind, that's good enough to use. We have developed over the years a very diverse lore of our own. We at heart, worship the Bloodgod, we have tribes within us that interpret that differently. That's how it should be.

-Gnarlug

I agree

[Gurig'Skar]

Originally Posted by Burz'Ro

As Gnoth said earlier, not all Bloodclan orcs worship the Bloodgod, so maybe we could just make a totally brand new backstory that fits with Darkfall, and then follow it. I'll try to come up with something and share it later. I'd like to know if you all are opposed to a new and different lore though.

I like Tolkins original lore.

Way back in the first age. Morgoth first created orcs from primative elves and organized the orcs into the massive force that became the back bone of every incantation of that Dark Lord from that point on. He would be destroyed and come back in a stronger and more powerful form until he became Sauron. Morgoth's story fads away after the saga of "The Lord of the Rings".

I nominate Morgoth as the Bloodgod and the Bloodclan's source of lore and modivation. He was the creater that Tolkin used to create the blessed race called orcs. The Bloodclan's lore has always been directed towards perserving the old ways, hasn't it?

Now we have some dragon with a planet sized ego leading the orc race down forbidden paths. I think that the Bloodgod has been calling to the hearts of his favorite race to return to his ways.

Most people that are drawn to being an Orc are first wanting to become what they saw and read in the Tolkin creations, directly and some indirectly thanks to copycat writers who wanted to piggy back on Tolkin's lasting creations.

This provides a great source for advertisement for the Bloodclan. If they see the Bloodclan as the true orcs from Mordor, many will do whatever it takes to become one. They will come naked and train to become a devoted participant.

This is why I was first attraced to the Bloodclan. The first time I saw someone RPing an orc while playing UO, I went nuts. The first thing that came to mind was all the Tolkin stuff I grew up on. When I saw the movies, I couldn't help but think back to the RP orcs I saw while playing UO and want to become one again.

Unfortunately school was more important at the time. I was too highly motivated to try to save my declining grades to pursue becoming an orc. Now school has been put on the back burner for a while, so I am orcin it up. At least trying to anyways.

[Gnarlug]

The only reason I'd go against the Morgoth RP is because usually when you pull in lore from other things into a game world with its own lore, it doesn't work out too well. People I think would see us as "cheesy" if we took Morgoth as our Bloodgod. I've always liked our Bloodgod as a mysterious Deity from the mountains who brought us together from the savage unorganized creatures we used to be and turned us into an organized, powerful horde to serve his will.

[Har'drak]

Originally Posted by Gnarlug

From as far back as I can remember, Bloodclan began as Bloodgod worshippers. Now, there are some who question those beliefs and have their own beliefs, but our foundation still strongly relies on the Bloodgod, I could never see us changing that.

I'm 100 % against joining any other form of Lore. We are Bloodclan, we have almost 6 years of background of our own. In my mind, that's good enough to use. We have developed over the years a very diverse lore of our own. We at heart, worship the Bloodgod, we have tribes within us that interpret that differently. That's how it should be.

-Gnarlug

Haw'Dwak Apwoobed

[Ar`uik]

We are Blood-Clan, it seems only natural we should worship the Blood-God.

If it's a matter of picking a starting area, then that's one thing, but I'm completely against worshipping anything but the Bloodgod in our clan. Our lore should stay as it has traditionally been, and build more onto that foundation. A new game shouldn't mean entirely new lore, in my opinion. Lets bring the Bloodgod to Agon, not leave'm in Britannia!

We can evolve our current lore to the changing times, but lets not make up a new one just for Darkfall.

Bluud fer da Bluudgud!

[Grognak]

Originally Posted by Gnarlug

From as far back as I can remember, Bloodclan began as Bloodgod worshippers. Now, there are some who question those beliefs and have their own beliefs, but our foundation still strongly relies on the Bloodgod, I could never see us changing that.

I'm 100 % against joining any other form of Lore. We are Bloodclan, we have almost 6 years of background of our own. In my mind, that's good enough to use. We have developed over the years a very diverse lore of our own. We at heart, worship the Bloodgod, we have tribes within us that interpret that differently. That's how it should be.

-Gnarlug

Bringing UO lore into another game seems pretty hypocritical given the treatment we've given to RP guilds who play as something that doesn't exist in the UO universe.

[Ar`uik]

Originally Posted by Grognak

Bringing UO lore into another game seems pretty hypocritical given the treatment we've given to RP guilds who play as something that doesn't exist in the UO universe.

I wouldn't say we'd be bringing in UO lore, rather that we'd be bringing in OUR lore. The Bloodgod itself was never part of UO lore to begin with, it was the clan's lore that was created and brought to UO.

We can bring it with us to Darkfall, and be naturally existant orcs who simply follow a different deity than that of the Dev-Created Lore. Doesn't sound too out of place.